Dec 2, 2019
Show Notes:
Speaker 1: (00:00)
Hey everybody, what's going on? Dr. Chad Woolner here. I'm Dr.
Buddy Allen and this is episode 39 of the health fundamentals
podcast. And on today's episode, we have our good friend and
special guest, Brett Hughes with us. He's going to be talking with
us about goals, transformation and modeling success. So let's get
started.
Speaker 2: (00:16)
You're listening to the health fundamentals podcast. I'm Dr. Chad
Woolner and I'm Dr. Buddy Allen. And this show is about giving you
the simple but powerful and cutting edge tools you need to change
your health and your life. So sit back and enjoy the show as we
show you the path to your best life down to a science.
Speaker 1: (00:35)
All right, everybody. So we're super excited about today's episode.
Um, we're not actually talking about modeling in terms of Brett as
a model, although I'm sure you could be. No. Um, we're actually
going to be talking with Brett here, uh, about a recent experience
that he had, uh, with, uh, a really a significant transformation.
But, uh, we wanted to kind of extrapolate that a little bit bigger
in terms of, uh, not just physical health, but other areas of
health as well and other areas of life. Um, because we were talking
about this, uh, Brett, Brett and I actually go way, way back. We've
known each other for golly, over a decade, haven't we? Yeah, it's
been awhile. I think we met at Russell's. We did. We did like 10
years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Well this was back in the day. Uh, so, so,
so Brett is, we were saying just before the interview, Brett is an
actual serial entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: (01:25)
Um, sometimes people like to use that term serial entrepreneur when
they're just people that like to start things and not finish
things. But bread actually starts things and finishes things. In
fact, he's had a handful of extremely successful businesses right
now. Uh, one of your businesses is Boise premiere real estate. Um,
people who live here in the treasure Valley. You'd be blind not to
know or hear about, uh, Boise premiere. You guys are one of the
fastest growing brokerage firms, is that correct? Yeah, that's
right. You might notice the lion signs. Yes. That's kind of like
the distinguishing factor. Yeah, I know it's a great logo. So, uh,
I guess to get started with, uh, maybe just give those who are
listening or watching a little bit of a background, who you are,
kind of what your story is. So, Oh man, it's one of those things
like you, you don't know where it started, right? Like even when I
was a little kid, I would wake up early and rake leaves if it was
fall or I would, you know, deal with shovel walks or whatever if it
was winter. So I was always just like an opportunistic kid. Sure.
And I'd try to drag my friends or my brother who typically didn't
want to be a part of it, right. Because even we were little kids, I
would make him be the secretary.
Speaker 1: (02:30)
But that was the kind of the idea is like, I've just always been
like financially motivated. And so I think even when I was
attending Boise state, I started flipping some houses and I really
liked real estate and I was cognizant that so many people had made
so much money in real estate. So I really want to be a part of it.
What'd you go to school for in Boise state business management.
Okay. Okay. I started out in accounting because I was like, it's
the ultimate language of business. I'm like, I've got to do it. But
really quickly, I remember teachers like, Hey, Brett, stay after
class today. I'm like, all right, cool. She's like, you're not an
accountant. I'm like, all right, I appreciate that. Thank you.
She's like, that was the intervention you needed. It really was
asking some question like why would we keep track of this? And
she's like, see me after class.
Speaker 1: (03:14)
You're not cut out for this. No. And I knew it wasn't. I just
wanted to learn. Sure. No, no, no. That's good. Um, so fast forward
now, uh, you had a really successful carpet cleaning business.
That's kind of when we met. Right? Um, is that still an existence?
He had told us still in existence. I sold it to my brother and he
just, he runs that. But real estate has always been my thing. I
actually went to that course cause I had to think of like one
business in particular, which was challenging. And so I chose
carpet cleaning, but it's never been my focus development, real
estate brokerage and, and even like new construction has always
been my big focus. And so in terms of, uh, w we'll just use this as
a, a feather in your cap bragging moment. That's okay. We can kind
of give you the [inaudible].
Speaker 1: (03:55)
What are some cool things, accomplishments and or accolades, things
that Boise premier has done. It's one of the fastest growing, isn't
it? Not. Yeah. Well, okay. So in real estate it's really
challenging to start your own independent brokerage. But I was so
dumb or naive that I didn't realize that would be such a challenge.
So even in my business, sometimes ignorance can be a good thing in
that regard. Right. You know, you don't have your own limiting
beliefs getting in the way. 100 per seriously. Yeah. So I worked
for a small brokerage downtown, an amazing broker, but it was one
of those places where you just show up, you call her when you need
a question and that's it. And so I thought brokerage looks like
that, right? Cause that's, she had a bunch of agents all very
similar to me. So when I started my own, I'm like, Whoa, these guys
are needy.
Speaker 1: (04:36)
They need a lot of stuff. But, um, but I loved it and I really
liked the, um, I love the agents. I love their entrepreneurial
mindset. And so, you know, my first goal was 50 agents and then a
certain number of transactions, and then it turned to a hundred and
then it was 150 and now it's 200 and we're right at two a hundred
right now. Wow. So, yeah, it's like, let's see, 10 years then it's
like 10 years. But it was like, it's a lot like this
transformation. It was the physical transformation. It was fun and
it wasn't like dreadful in the, in the moment. But we're looking
back on it. It would, I wouldn't want to do it again. Right.
That's, that's how I look at Moe school. That's how I look at
starting the practice. That's how I look at a lot of things.
Speaker 1: (05:14)
That's so true. So, so tell us kind of a little bit about your
experience recently. You had a really cool experience with, uh, you
know, uh, physical transfer, bicycle transportation, health,
transportation, w tell us about kind of what sparked that in the
first place and kind of the journey and the story. Okay. So my wife
has done a couple of these. Okay. And she is extremely driven. Like
when she sets out to do something, she does it. Okay. And so I was
like watching what she was eating and her and her, um, exercise.
And I was like, wow, this looks really hard. I wonder if I'm
paused, if, if, if I could do it. So I just kind of put that in the
back of my mind. And then we're in Hawaii. We go there each winter
at a certain time. Like in January. Don't blame you.
Speaker 1: (05:52)
Yeah. Boise's cold. Yeah. Kind of January. And I remember we were
at this beautiful waterfall. Okay. And there's this rope swing and
I was doing these backflips and so I wanted to see the picture and
the video. Okay. So the very first video I look at, I'm like, huh,
that's a bad angle. I look kind of chubby and then I looked at this
camera's doing weird things. Yeah. Is doing weird things. Cause as
guys, we look in the mirror straight on, we don't look at the
sides. Right? Right. And so I look at another picture and I'm like,
wait a second. And then I asked my wife, I'm like, do I look like
this? And she's like, yeah, why? And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm
chubby. I didn't even know this. And I remember distinctly thinking
like I'm a Boise state football fan, right?
Speaker 1: (06:30)
Yeah. I'm like, I'm six two, 205 pounds. That's like that's what an
athlete it looks like. No, not exactly. My formation was much
different than a rock solid, you know? And so it kind of like that
was a spur where I'm like, okay, like you're getting older, this
stuff, age is not going to like, you know, it takes everybody so
you have to do something, otherwise you're going to be that guy.
Right. And so that was kind of the catalyst for you? That was like
the defining moment that, yes. And so what did you do at that point
then? What did you decide? What did you, so I do the same thing
every time. I'm trying to figure anything out, right? I want to
find out who's done it successfully, who has been the smartest at
it and who can actually help me. Okay. So for this one it was easy
because I saw the transformation my wife made.
Speaker 1: (07:15)
Now she's always been in good shape, but she went to exceptional
shape and so on. And I remember thinking like Eric at Mecca, he had
a really good approach to it. So you could, you would track your
macros, which is proteins, carbohydrates, and fats. And you wasn't
like you to have the same thing every single day. You had some
flexibility. Right. And Megan was drinking water the whole time.
Like it wasn't like she was dehydrated or like unhealthy in any
way. And then even after the competition he brought her back out
slowly, like you reverse diet back out. And I thought it was like a
really careful, thoughtful, um, approach. So I started working with
him and when I first went there I was just kind of working out and
getting stronger and getting better and then find that decided
let's just do it. Let's just turn up the heat and see if we can,
you know, if I can actually do one of these competitions.
Speaker 1: (07:59)
Right. So couple of things cause I want to talk about that
competition. Um, you said something at the beginning of there that
I think we need to kind of back up just a little bit so people can
kind of pull some, some value out of this. Not just in terms of the
physical value or physical transformation, but the, your first
inclination was to find someone who already had a proven track
record or a proven method. And that's what we mean by modeling. We
were joking at the beginning about modeling, you know, yeah. As he
let her style. Um, but, but, but this idea of modeling is a common
denominator that you will find amongst the most successful people
in just about any endeavor, whether it be physical health
transformation, whether it be a mental or emotional health
transformation, whether that be, uh, you know, improvements that
they want to make in business or any other goals that people want
to set and achieve.
Speaker 1: (08:54)
Um, you've got basically in general two choices. You can either
forge that path and be a pioneer, good luck to you and more power
to you. That's, that's amazing. Or the other approach that you
took, which I think most people would find a wiser approach and a
better expenditure and use of energy would be to find a proven
method and just model that and do things more over. Um, when you
really look at this, so many people actually look at themselves or
think of themselves as I, you know, like I fit outside of this box
of, um, it worked for him, but it probably won't work for me.
Right. So I'm an exception. Yes. I'm the exception, not the rule
when, what your saying is, it's absolutely the rule. Every time
you've ever been successful, it's been, when you've found someone
to model that was already successful, you do what they do and you
get similar results.
Speaker 1: (09:46)
And just thinking about like how many years they've put in to their
craft, there's no way I can catch up, right? Nope. So why don't I
just pay them and get the result? Like it just seems so much
easier. You know what's funny about that is, is that's my secret to
success with fishing. Is that, uh, Albertson's, no, no, no. That's
a really cut in the middle man. Now I'm not that bad up Noah. I've
got a good buddy of mine out in Washington that, that buddy and I
go, Dr. Allen and I go fishing with every year and he is a pro. I
mean he is just, he is a seasoned pro. He's been doing it for, uh,
two decades plus and you name it. He's, he knows how to catch it.
And so we just go with him. And every time we go, we, we catch
fish.
Speaker 1: (10:32)
It accelerates the learning process and makes it really easy for
us. Instead. It's a lot more fun. So yeah. And it's a lot more fun.
Instead of spending your time not catching anything, you actually
go and catch stuff. So, uh, you know, at the end of the day, I
think we're, we're, again, we're talking about this idea of, you
know, how do you want to expend that energy and you could expend
that energy in learning process and there's no Downing that for
people if that's what they're want to do. You know, they want to
really devote themselves to that process and uh, and, and do that,
that there's, there's no shame in that or no problem in that. But
for people who want to accelerate that, uh, whatever transformation
you're looking for, um, a far more efficient, that's the word I
would use as efficient approach is exactly what you did in what are
the chances that you're going to be equally motivated as that guy
to get the learning.
Speaker 1: (11:20)
Right. And I remember when I started wasting premiere, we, my
business partner at the time, we basically split up five or six
people that we would call and we would talk to them about their
model and we made sure they're outside of our state so they didn't
have any, they didn't care if we succeeded or failed. Right. And
then we took the top two and visit him. So we actually went to
Denver and Utah and we visited them and we looked at their
location, what their office staff looked like, how they did it. And
it was like, okay, just do what they did. Right. And so far so
good. Yeah. I mean and making minor changes, but for the most part
you're not reinventing the wheel. Right, right. That's huge. So
tell us a little bit about the actual contest that you entered,
kind of that experience.
Speaker 1: (11:57)
What was that like? What did you do to prepare for it? A little bit
more detail there. Yeah, so it was interesting, like the actual
working out is not that much different on a daily basis of what I
did before. Okay. So it might be like 45 minutes to an hour or
something like that. So not crazy. The diet was a little bit more
challenging because I had a couple of really bad habits. One, I
didn't have enough protein in my diet. So before I actually was
cognizant of this has probably happened like 60 70 grams of protein
a day. And for like, uh, you know, a male, you've got to have like
at least our body weight and when you're trying to do something
like this or trying to keep around 200 grams of protein. So that
was a quick adjustment to, I love dr pepper.
Speaker 1: (12:35)
Well, one of those little cans is 42 carbs. Okay. So if you're only
getting 150 carbs a day, what are the chances of you drink one by
the way? Right? Pretty low. So you're wasting your energy and your,
your carbs on these drinks. So it was kind of nice because
something I didn't think I'd ever be able to kick the habit of. And
I actually listened to one of your guys's podcasts on the addiction
one and I was like thinking about some of the, just the things you
do daily, daily, you know, so those were two big pieces. But the
nice thing about the workouts is that they were programmed and so
they're on like eight week or 16 week blocks. And so you don't
think about that either. Like I don't know if it's going to be like
three sets of two today or if it's going to be five sets of 50.
Speaker 1: (13:16)
I mean not that you would do that, but do you know what I mean?
Like a program for you? Right. So that took some of the mental
energy away from the whole process. You didn't have to expend that.
You know, when, when I did CrossFit, that was one of the nice
things that I liked about CrossFit was I would joke with people and
say, I liked doing CrossFit cause I'm lazy. And that sounds
paradoxical, but the thing that's nice about it is when you have
somebody do the programming for you, um, that's just one. And, and,
and you wouldn't think that that portion of, of the process is, is
a big deal, but mental energy is a huge part of it. And you
actually hit a really solid point is I think more people are way
more capable of achieving these types of goals. But the problem is
because they don't have a plan that's already laid out.
Speaker 1: (14:01)
Yes. What happens is, uh, they, they're great all day long. All
right? They make good choices in the morning, all day long during
work. And then by the time that the end of the day comes, they're
beat down, they're tired, then maybe they're a little stressed. And
at that point that there's actually a physical thing called
decision fatigue where you start making poor decisions because
you're just tired. And so if the decisions already made, if the
plan is already there, it makes it infinitely more likely that
you're going to achieve that goal because you don't even have to
think about it. It's already there. It's kind of like a presetting
up, the bumpers in bowling, you know, before you start bowling, you
know you don't have the gutter that you're going to go into. It's
just kinda like, yeah, you've got that, you know, plan in place to
kind of keep you in that lane in that path.
Speaker 1: (14:48)
And it's fascinating too, cause you, you seeing food in a different
way. It's more of like a fuel. You can still have fun with it and
it's still good and everything. But I realized at night I would
grab like a bowl of ice cream. Okay. Right. So, and it wasn't
terrible. Ice cream wasn't like high fat. It was like actually like
three and a half grams of fat. Not bad, but it's 30 cars. Right.
We'll even a bowl of cereal. One cup of, of cereal is like 35
carbs. So if you're done for the day, like if you've had your 200
grams of protein, you've had your 150 carbs and you're at 60 grams
of fat, well you can't have 30 more. Right. And you've logged it
all in your phone, you know, you like, there's a bunch of like free
apps for that. And it was just, it just took the decision making
away, which was nice.
Speaker 1: (15:30)
Yeah, it was just one last thing you had to expend energy on and
thinking about. Right. So what was the name of the competition that
you enrolled in it? Was it a, was it a, it wasn't a bodybuilding
competition was, what was it? So there is bodybuilding there. So
it's like, it's called, those is called the Idaho cap. Okay. And so
there's like serious bodybuilders and then there's like classic
bodybuilders and then there's men's physique. So this is men's
physique. So it's like, you know, it's like the lowest of that
group, but you're going for a different look. Right. It's more of
like the athletic lean look as opposed to like a big and writing.
Yeah. You're not trying to put on a massive amount of size. Yeah.
So, um, what are some other lessons that you learned from this
whole experience and so many lessons for one.
Speaker 1: (16:13)
I know that's kind of an open ended broad question. I guess the
biggest one, like specifically to this. Okay. Two things. One, it's
another, um, it's another good experience of like success leading
to more success. Right? So you've done something, you followed it,
you could do it, right. Yeah. So that was nice. It's just, you're
just compounding it now it's like, okay, what else could I do?
Right. Which is great also for this particular piece as far as the
physical, your relationship with food is very fascinating. Yeah, no
doubt. Eat out of boredom. You eat out of debt. It's their stress
stress in the way that the modern house is set up. The kitchen is
usually a center point of any house, right? I mean, great rooms in
particular. And so like you're like walking by the pantry and
you're just like, Oh, what's in there.
Speaker 1: (17:01)
So it's just fascinating. Like even like our modern lifestyle.
Yeah. You said something there that I want to touch on that I
thought was really important. I'm a good friend of mine. Uh, he has
a saying and I've loved, this is like stuck with me ever since I
heard it. I just heard it. On a month ago. Um, he said, how you do
one thing is how you do everything. And I think that's such an
important point that you touched on there, that you know that
again, you're using this as [inaudible]. And the term that I use a
lot of times is personal legitimacy. You know, I'd say for a lot of
us, that's something I think most people can relate to and struggle
with is that our work, it's far easier to, for most people, to
break their word to themselves than it is to another person.
Speaker 1: (17:40)
If I promised you something, it's gonna happen, you know, because
that's my integrity that's on the line. That's my word on the line
that, you know, but I can promise things to myself and no one's
gonna know, you know, I can, I can, I can break those promises all
day long. And so the, the point that you talk about, they're, they,
how you do one thing is how you do everything. Meaning, you know,
that you, you, you're going to use that success in other domains of
your life as well as, uh, as fuel, as a catalyst, as evidence, uh,
to really strengthen what we, what I call personal legitimacy,
that, that when you say you're going to do something, it means
something. There's, there's, there's teeth to that, you know, and
this seriousness level stepped up once you signed up. Right, right.
So it was like three months before and the three months is the
hardest part because you're starting to like now you're lowering
your carbs and it starting to become more challenging and, but
there was like this not, it wasn't a carrot, it was like
embarrassment.
Speaker 1: (18:35)
Right, right. And it's like, Oh I do not want to show up and be
that guy. You know what I mean? So like the embarrassment level
popped in cause you, you made a commitment and I made a, Kim came
into my, to my friend who challenged me to do it, but then at the
same time it was like, okay, now it's real. Right, right. Making
things real. That's a huge part of it too. You know, cause I think
for a lot of people to uh, you know, the, the saying easy come easy
go, comes to mind, you know, that if you don't put some skin in the
game, it's a lot easier to kind of back out of it, you know?
Whereas when you, like you said it got real when you signed up, you
know, so I know that it's been your, your experience with running
Roby.
Speaker 1: (19:12)
Right. I despise running and I've always known I've tried it and
I've done it lots of times and everyone always would say, Oh, once
you do it enough, you're going to love it. I never ever found that
love. Okay. That point. But I knew I needed to get better lungs and
better kind of like you said, I'm getting older, I want to be able
to keep up with my kids. And uh, it was one day I was like, I heard
an advertisement or saw an advertisement. It's like Roby Creek
signup is today. And I'm like, and it was like 10 minutes away. I'm
like, Oh, well if I'm going to get better at running, I better sign
up. I mean I need some, I need some motivation. And what's funny
about that is you didn't have any clue at that time how difficult
it is to actually get into it.
Speaker 1: (19:49)
And you're like, I've never, never run a race in my life. Anytime
sells out in like seven minutes. And part of me saying I'm going to
sign up for it. I was thinking, I'm not going to get in. Cause
everyone said it was so hard and when I hit enter and it says, Oh,
congratulations. I'm like, Oh crap. What? Like a real, real quick.
Yeah, no, no, no. So yeah, I could feel your pain there. Yeah. So,
um, you know, I know you're a busy guy, Brett, and so we appreciate
you being here with us today. Uh, I think you've shared, you know,
it's, it's, it's interesting when we first invited you on the
podcast, you know, this is this being the health fundamentals
podcast. I think for people, if they knew who you were, they'd be
like, well yeah, he's a real estate broker.
Speaker 1: (20:28)
What does that have to do with health? You know? But I think
there's a lot that we can draw from, not just this experience, but
other business experiences that you've had in terms of, uh, some
powerful life lessons that I think people can take and utilize. And
so I'm hoping that for those either watching or listening, they
gleaned some nuggets that I think are here for them to take. You
know, you shared some really profound wisdom, uh, that I think
could really change a lot of people's lives. And so we hope that
that's, you know, for those listening, for that one person, that,
that hears just that one thing that they need just to make that,
that little shift or big shift in their life, whatever it is, um,
for a dramatic difference for them. I think you've, you've, you've
shared a lot of great stuff.
Speaker 1: (21:06)
Um, any closing thoughts, Dr. Allen bread? Anything you want to
include? Any, any favorite sayings for life? Any words of wisdom
and partying? Tom, man, I should've thought about this. I love
reading. I mean, I really liked the compound effect. Oh man. The
whole idea of like, I mean, there's so many good books. I can think
of, but as far as a parting gift is just like when I think of the
compound effect, it's like remember the spot where they have the
three people? Yes. The one who makes the slight improvement, the
one who does nothing. And the one who makes a negative improvement,
right? Or negative, whatever you said, some sort of negative thing.
And it's like you can't tell anything after a year. You can barely
tell anything after two years, but it was three years where they
all separate. Right. And I just think about that.
Speaker 1: (21:45)
Like that's, that's the whole fundamental, but I'm trying to do,
like, I'm not going to beat anyone being the fastest or strongest
whatever, but I've been really consistent throughout the years and
that's where I can win, you know? And I think that's where anyone
can win is just by being consistent. You know, it's, it's, it's
powerful that you end on that because our mantra, uh, on the health
fundamentals podcast, this whole podcast is based around what we
call five fundamentals of health. The first being that health comes
from the inside. The second being what you just said there, that
we're going to be, we're going to be most likely to achieve
whatever it is we want with our health. When our approach is one of
simplicity and consistency, it's huge. You know, and then it goes
on from there. But that, but that's really it. You know, what
you're talking about here is so in harmony and we and you didn't
even know that. So that was like perfect. So, um, anyways, uh, hope
this has been valuable for you guys and if you know other people
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with you more. Great information moving forward on the next episode
and even more to come. So thanks again, uh, to Brett here for being
with us. We'll talk to you guys later.
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